Moving into aerial corridors of Munich

Hello Aeronauts!

Happy to be part of the Aerocene Community as it continues to grow and gather pace, reaching from Argentina with @Joaquin @juli @Carlos to UK @sasha @jol to Italy @aeroalice @RigacciOrg , and from the US @shapiro.nick @lizbarry to Istanbul @yeltakom to @HrishiC in Mumbai and many many others - creating a network of life-in-the-air dreamers around the world…

After several successful free flights with recovery from Berlin area last summer along with two recent world records lifting passengers for more than two hours, without using any helium, propane or rare gases, @tomas, @camilla @Erik @Gwilym and other Berlin based enthusiasts have been longing for the upcoming season in the Northern Hemisphere, allowing for increased chances of flying aerosolar, reaching new heights through collaboration, winds and solar energies…

Once the thermodynamic balance cooperates with our intentions, horizon is set on Munich - to enable the city and neighborhoods to be lifted by the sun, and carried by winds, becoming aerosolar, and sign with the air, manifesting independencies from fossil-fuels… Experimenting with free, tethered and human flights, it would be amazing to have you all - the global community - involved in the idea-shaping, and planning process, and of course to join us for the flights. We are thinking to make these flights happen in July, hoping as many as possible will be able to join then…

Speculating into following launch sites, what are your thoughts? Do you have any other suggestions in mind?

Human flight

  • Olympia Park (designed by the Günther Behnisch and Frei Otto)
  • Theresienweise (where Wilhelmine Reichards the first German female balloonist made her last flight)
  • Pantzerweise (former military place for tanks, now major hub for Conservation of natural habitats and of wild fauna and flora)

Free flight

Tethered Flights

  • Ostpark
  • Luitpoldpark

Are there any people around Munich as earthly or aerially interested as you are…? Maybe a school or organisation that would like to become a Borrowing Station of the Explorer backpack or hack the bottle device, or sculpture itself? We are currently thinking of reaching out to

What do you think?



sounds great and well researched! good luck!

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Very nice places, I have visited some of them, good luck with the flights! Greetings from Argentina.

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Hey @camilla! Super exciting project, lots of pre-production work, kudos!
Will you be using the cart bicycle as mobile Borrowing Station? I think it would be interesting to take it there and have the flexibility to choose a unplanned location.

I am interested in free-flight, and was wondering if there could be a prevailing pattern of travel, but it seems not, as seen from these habhub predcitions:
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I like the idea to launch from the site that Wilhelmine Reichards made her last float!

@jol has recently been collaborating between arts and physics universities in Munich, leading workshops and field trips and presenting research there, so he may have more specific ideas about interesting people to involve…

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it is very exciting the idea of planting the seed of the coming Aerocene epoch in the city of Munich.
I like the Olympia Park location because it mixes together architectural heritage, river, nice trees for some shadowns but also plenty of space for both tether flights and human flight!
Regarding the conversations and the engagement with the city, this is a great chance to open up new discussions based on the values of Aerocene community, spreading our voice and the DIT (do it together) ethos!

I think this is a great opportunity to work closely with local realities, approaching subjectivities-groups through a different language, in order to favor the unfolding of those “micropolitics” of which Guattari spoke. Micropolitics seen as the implementation of collective awarenesses that consider the living conditions of bodies, territories, desires, needs, economic status and therefore the paths of liberation and happiness.

Aerocene as creative resistance, fostering a material imaginative response-ability that considers the peculiarity of this epoch passage, in which we are still fully immersed but ready to leave behind.

Yes amazing! Lots of people have actually been mentioning @jol - both from TUM and Academy of fine Arts :slight_smile:

Great to see all the enthusiasm and excitement surrounding this already!

Some updates from our Aerocene research & scouting trip last week to Munich:

Human flight -
After a series of meetings & scouting sessions, we’re in the process of applying for permission from the city for a number of possible locations:

  • Olympiapark (central)
  • Bavariapark (right next to Theresienweise)
  • Olympiapark (area in front of montessori school)

Free flight -
Thanks to some local radio amateurs we’ve learned the flight path network in Munich is very dense and unacommodating for aerosolar flights. This means it will be a challenge to find a location within the city / reachable by public transport(a must) where we can get a free flight permission.
@tkrahn maybe you have some experience in this part of Germany?
We hope to gather as much information as possible before any applications.

@Joaquin we won’t have this bicycle device, but the 2.0 version will be there ensuring we can inflate our sculptures with human power!

Free flight -
Thanks to some local radio amateurs we’ve learned the flight path network in Munich is very dense and unacommodating for aerosolar flights. This means it will be a challenge to find a location within the city / reachable by public transport(a must) where we can get a free flight permission.
@tkrahn maybe you have some experience in this part of Germany?

As I mentioned earlier a water launch from the South part of the Ammersee will likely be your best option.

  • Herrsching has a good S-Bahn connection to Munich

  • This is at the outer rim of the Munich Airport airspace C which only starts at 8500 ft altitude and ends at 10000 ft altitude (2590 … 3048 m altitude). If you launch at Ammersee at 533 m altitude you’ll cross this zone very quickly. Depending on the wind direction you may fly away from this zone before you even reach 8500 ft. There is a good chance that air traffic control will not care about this very much.

  • There is an unobstructed view to the Alps and a flat launch area.

  • Most important reason to go here is the monastery Andechs, where they brew excellent dark beer

You have already contact to radio amateurs in the Munich area, however I could also make you some contacts to my old hamradio club in Fuerstenfeldbruck if you like. They are just North of Ammersee and have a club station that’s well equipped for tracking the balloons
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I’m only allowed to use one picture per post, so here is more information:

Ammersee is on the opposite side of Munich than the Munich airport.

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In summer the wind generally comes from West / North-West directions.

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All valuable information, thanks @tkrahn !

The information we have gathered:

  • we need a place 1.5km outside of airfields

  • the whole vessel under 4Kg

  • permission of the landowner

  • 10 days process time

  • versicherung needed

In light of this we are moving ahead with the Ammersee area as our option for the Munich free flight, so now it’s a matter of finalising a specific location and getting permission from the landowners.

One place in particular we’re interested in is an open space on the south east side, not far from the ‘Froschgartl’ Biergarten.
There appears to be a lot of open grass space, as well as a sanded area, and potentially good view/access to the water.
Do you know anything about this area?

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Fellow aeronauts, after all the forum input and busy weeks in the Berlin Aerohub, we are so happy to release the details of Aerocene Festival - on air, as @Joaquin 6-11 Sept 2019, the launch pad: 48.1699° N, 11.5515° E / Olympiaberg, Munich!

Following discussions in the open call thread, festival energy-makers have brought together a variety of workshops, think tanks, aerosolar flights and talks, forming a program which offers a multitude of entrances for all and brings together local experts, aeronauts from our globally dispersed community and a multitude of practices: Download the full program here or alternatively, navigate the festival webpages where you can also reserve your spot in a workshop! The posters made for the festival are also free to download!

The line-up of collaborators awaiting your engagement in Munich, as confirmed so far, reads:
Erik Bordeleau - @Ritornello ; Emanuele Braga (Landscape Choreography, Macao); Ayushi Dhawan; Joaquin Ezcurra; Diogo da Cruz, Johannes Herms and Konrad Altenmüller (SFB42); Thomas Krahn - @tkrahn ; Beate Engl; Dorothea Hutterer; Avenir Institute (@Denis Maksimov & @Timo Tuominen); David Luigart (IMAL, Eduart K); Igor Mikloušić (Balon klub Zagreb); Tomás Saraceno - @tomas ; Débora Swistun - @Debora ; Susanne Witzgall; FabLab München e.V.; and KlimaHerbst.

Specific conversations towards the festival are due to be fostered in the following threads:

Free Flight
Open Air Voices
Manifesto Hack

Here, discussions ahead of the talks program will unfold; soon papers will be released by the participants - feel welcome to discuss and exchange, we hope your voices may reverberate in Munich as well!

For all general conversations, festival questions and anything else, simply find the spot you think best.
Updates on how to participate online during the festival dates will follow, and we can’t wait to meet you in the forum threads and at the festival!